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- From: dingbat@codesmth.demon.co.uk (Andy Dingley)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.object,comp.software-eng
- Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
- Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 23:28:07 GMT
- Organization: Codesmiths Software Development Ltd.
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- jhd@herold.franken.de (Joachim Durchholz) wrote:
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- >ell@access4.digex.net wrote 19.03.96 on Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer:
- >
- >> most of the benefits of oo derive from its closeness to objects in the
- >> real world.
-
- >I'd take that with a grain of salt. The real objects may be a useful
- >starting point, but what I see in well-designed libraries are lots of
- >highly abstract objects
-
- "libraries" is the crucial word. A library of objects is necessarily
- somewhat abstract, if you want to see good flexibility and
- re-usability.
-
- That isn't to say that objects within a project may not also closely
- resemble real-world objects, even if this sacrifices all hope of their
- extensibility. The success of "componentware" is an indication of this
- approach's value. Componentware may be thought of as objects that have
- sacrificed all of their flexibility in favour of immediate ease of
- use. The success of tools like VB demonstrates the practical
- usefulness of this concept, even if it makes "real" OO designers choke
- on their quiche.
-
- I don't see these two interpretations of the object paradigm as
- contradictory, even within the same project. The object concept is
- broad enough to include both.
-
-
- If Pascal programmers eat quiche, what _do_ OO designers eat ? 8-)
- --
- Andy Dingley dingbat@codesmth.demon.co.uk
-
- "Cut the second act and the child's throat"
- - Noel Coward, on seeing the young Bonnie Langford on stage
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